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30 June 2008, 01:10 PM   #1
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Posts: 423
there is currently no listing on for

does anyone want to take a stab at creating one?

some facts can be gleamed from the FAQs

obviously I'm not suggesting anything too grand, but I think a paragraph would be cool.

by way of example the listings for MySpace, NeoPets, Friendster and FaceBook begin like
this respectively:

MySpace is a popular social networking website offering an interactive, user-submitted
network of friends, personal profiles, blogs, groups, photos, music and videos for
teenagers and adults internationally. Its headquarters are in Beverly Hills, California,
USA,[2] where it shares an office building with its immediate owner, Fox Interactive
Media; which is owned by News Corporation, which has its headquarters in New York City.

The company employs 300 staff[3] and does not disclose revenues or profits separately from
News Corporation. The 100 millionth account was created on August 6, 2006[4] in the
Netherlands[5] and a news story claimed 106 million accounts on September 8, 2006,[6] and
the site reportedly attracts 230,000 new registrations per day.[7]


Neopets (originally NeoPets) is a virtual pet website launched by Adam Powell and Donna
Williams on 15 November 1999.[1] Six months after the web site was launched, Adam Powell
and Donna Williams successfully sold a majority share to a consortium of investors led by
Doug Dohring. On 20 June 2005, Viacom bought Neopets, Inc. for $160 million (USD).[2]

Neopets is based around the eponymous virtual pets that inhabit the virtual world of
Neopia. Visitors can create an account and take care of up to four virtual pets, buying
them food, toys, clothes, and other accessories using a virtual currency called Neopoints.
Neopoints can be earned through playing games, investing in the stock market, trading,
winning contests and making your own shop. Users can explore the world of Neopia with
their Neopets and interact with each other through the NeoBoards, NeoMail, and guilds.

In addition to the main site, Neopets also operates a pay-to-play version known as Neopets
Premium, which offers additional features and benefits for a monthly fee of $7.99 (USD).
Several issues with the site, such as immersive advertising and gambling-based games have
garnered criticism.


Friendster is an Internet social network service. The Friendster site was founded in
Mountain View, California, United States by Jonathan Abrams in March 2002[1] and is
privately owned. Friendster is based on the Circle of Friends and Web of Friends
techniques for networking individuals in virtual communities and demonstrates the small
world phenomenon. It currently has more than 70 million members worldwide[2] and is mostly
used in Asia [3][4]. Based on Alexa, Friendster ranked 2nd most visited website in the
Philippines and third party, 16th. [5] It is estimated that nearly
90 percent of internet users in the Philippines have Friendster accounts, although the
rest of the world is either logging on to MySpace or Facebook. [6] David Jones, vice
president for global marketing of Friendster, said that "the biggest percentage of users
is from the Philippines, clocking in with 39 percent of the site's traffic." [7]


Facebook (branded as "facebook") is a social networking website launched on February 4,
2004. The free-access website is privately owned and operated by Facebook, Inc. Users can
join networks organized by city, workplace, school, and region to connect and interact
with other people. People can also add friends and send them messages, and update their
personal profile to notify friends about themselves. The website's name refers to the
paper facebooks depicting members of a campus community that some American colleges and
preparatory schools give to incoming students, faculty, and staff as a way to get to know
other people on campus.

Mark Zuckerberg founded Facebook while still a student at Harvard University. Website
membership was initially limited to Harvard students, but was expanded to other colleges
in the Ivy League. It later expanded further to include any university student, then high
school students, and, finally, to anyone aged 13 and over. Peter Thiel was the first
person to fund the company, with an initial investment of US$500,000. Features include a
Wall for posting messages and Photos for uploading digital photos. The website has more
than 80 million active users worldwide.

Facebook has met with some controversy over the past few years. It has been blocked in
several countries including Syria and Iran. Privacy has also been an issue, and it has
been compromised several times. It is also facing several lawsuits from a number of
Zuckerberg's former classmates, who claim that Facebook had stolen their source code and
other intellectual property.


30 June 2008, 01:12 PM   #2
Joined: 21 May 2008
Posts: 423
PS: if people like this idea...

my suggestion is to actually Work out collectively on here...what the initial Wiki entry
would that we can agree, rewrite and of course so Hina can review it....BEFORE
publishing it to

30 June 2008, 01:13 PM   #3
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Yes kupika should be becuse this is a grate website Wikipedia should have kupika listed.

30 June 2008, 01:18 PM   #4
Joined: 6 Sep 2007
Posts: 494
Pro: Hina can be teh intarwebz famous

Con: Kupika will be more known to /b/, spammers etc
Huge & unnecessary signature gap is huge & unnecessary. :3

30 June 2008, 01:56 PM   #5
Joined: 21 May 2008
Posts: 423
ok use this thread to discuss the pros and cons....though i think mostly there are more
pros than cons...

ultimately, i wouldnt be comfortable adding a listing to wikipedia without Hina's blessing
so it will be his call in the end..

in the meantime im going to work on a first draft of the listing and post it in a
different discussion thread for comments and suggestions, additions etc.

1 July 2008, 11:39 AM   #6
Joined: 12 Jun 2008
Posts: 45
Hmm.............This is going to be hard. Maybe we could also make a TV Ad.....if thats
possible because people need Kupika because it shows you how you can meet other people in
different countries without talking on the phone and without going there.

1 July 2008, 11:42 AM   #7
Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Posts: 366
TV ad? Do you want to fund that?

Kupika is better as a smaller community. It runs faster that way as well.

Hina needs to accept my new account!

1 July 2008, 11:45 AM   #8
Joined: 12 Jun 2008
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Lol...........I was just giving out an idea...

2 July 2008, 10:54 AM   #9
Joined: 6 Sep 2007
Posts: 494
Lol yeah, ok. That's affordable. >_<
Which country would this TV ad even be hypothetically shown in? XD
Huge & unnecessary signature gap is huge & unnecessary. :3

2 July 2008, 11:18 AM   #10
Joined: 21 May 2008
Posts: 423
i think she gets it about the TV ad 

besides i think promoting on the web, linking it from our pages would get the word around.
Hina's never told people to do it as far as i can see, but if everyone would actually put
a little link or blurb about Kupika on their OTHER web spaces...whether its their MySpace
or Bebo or FaceBook acct, etc. then i bet you would see a lot more people discover
it.....that would be plenty of advertising....

well theres good and bad....and usually incumbent residents of a virtual community resist
not only changes but the influx of newcomers....

but on the whole I think a larger number of users would be good for Kupika. We see the
same 150 people log in day in and day out....but the place could use a bit more vibrancy.
Its such a design that one can still get the "small community" feel out of it, but having
more profiles (of actual different people) and more creative works and publications and
persons contributing in fleeting thoughts etc. would all be good i think.

The more people on it, sure it might be slower, but then again if we attracted more and
more adult users, maybe they would contribute to help support it and also contribute to
the advertisers, that in turn might help Hina upgrade and keep things flowing.

Personally, I would like to see ideas on how to go about increasing Kupika's adult
membership and also male membership since these are the two segments of the demographic
that are in the minority. 

It also seems that some areas of the world are under-represented. I dont see a whole lot
of members from some european nations (Germany, Austria, Hungary, Russia, Italy,
Switzerland, France, Spain, etc., really only the U.K. is well represented), and whole
parts of Africa, Mexico, Central and South America, and some Asian lands.

2 July 2008, 11:21 AM   #11
Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Posts: 366
You make it sound better than it is :P If current members advertised it we would be
likely to get more children, not more adults. 

Hina needs to accept my new account!

2 July 2008, 11:28 AM   #12
Joined: 6 Sep 2007
Posts: 494
What do you think about localisation? The site is in English, could this not be the
reason why the United Kingdom has more members than the other European countries?
There are actually quite a lot of members from places such as Sweden, whose residents
typically speak rather good English. 

I would encourage people in the language fanatics communities I'm in to join to improve
their English, but the kids use such bad English on here. *sigh* u_u
Huge & unnecessary signature gap is huge & unnecessary. :3

2 July 2008, 11:51 AM   #13
Joined: 21 May 2008
Posts: 423
to Sanyu: well true but i was thinking of the two points separately though. just in
general more promotion by everyone putting a link/blurb about KUpika on their personal
webpresences - which as you say would probably draw in more peers i.e. younger people....

and a separate point of drawing in new adults and males....

.......i think obviously the look of kupika is one thing that will keep many adults away
because even though many like Anime and characters or cartoons many don't or would visit,
see so many kids and teens, see the appearance of the site and might assume its not a
place for them....without changing this presentation too much, im just wondering if there
isn't a way to be a bit more inviting....right from the outset..

i wonder too whether Hina's original emphasis on being Anonymous should be
reconsidered......i dont have the stats to back it but my feel is that the vast majority
of members are choosing not to be completely anonymous..and while perhaps not revealing
every detail about themselves, they are revealng a lot...yet on the front door prior to
joining...and in the site's FAQ, there is still the emphasis on anonymity. My point though
is that many adults who might join for the Pen-paling or social aspects of it don't want
to be anonymous so they might be put off by the heavy emphasison that. Relatedly, while it
says "e-pen-pals" i think that a greater emphasis or entire section of the site or a CLUB
or somepages that people could post their actual pen-pal info (even without joining Kupika
proper) would draw upon the thousands of people out there who are looking for pen pals.

I do agree though that the romantic possibilities should be downplayed as I wouldnt want
Kupika turning into a dating site.

To Lyncheh: well sure, of course the fact that its an English-language-based site is
probably causing some skewing towards english speaking populations, but I dont' think that
woudl account for the disparity that we see. As you point out and as we know, there are
many english speakers in the lands which i cited above that are under represented. I think
there must be other causal factors involved for this under-representation..but let's not
forget. Kupika is actually an extremely new site relatively speaking. It was only started
2 years ago! In contrast, MySpace and all of the major social networking sites were around
for years and years before they got significant populations so I think the development is
probably normal.

Whetehr we do any promotion or not, Kupika is likely to grow gradually. Hopefully, it will
grow large enough to ensure its continuance indefinitely because I think Hina is
circumspect about that for the sake of its current members and his friends but its future
is by no means certain. As he has said "all things come to an end eventually"
(paraphrasing). I think too that if it grew large enough that it might someday make Hina a
bit of money which personally I think would be a nice reward for his creation and hard
work. (virtual hugs from his friends are nice   but some cold hard cash in his pocket
would be even nicer)

2 July 2008, 12:13 PM   #14
Joined: 21 May 2008
Posts: 423
additional to Lyncheh,

actually its a bit of a viscious cycle....

a large population of young members.....(and this isnt being unfair) translates to a large
population of members with bad grammar and poor language skills....

and increasing the same population demographic doesnt do anything but feed the bad grammar
and poor language skills...

and that won't be attractive to those who might want to join to increase their language

but with a larger population of adults (and this is a presumption true but a safe one i
think) would include a larger population of people with good grammar and language
skills.....these in turn would hopefully influence the population of (younger) members
with poorer skills...thus helping to elevate the population's language skills as a
whole...and becoming more attractive to those who might want to join to increase their
language skills...

2 July 2008, 12:24 PM    #15
Joined: 21 May 2008
Posts: 423
while im on that same line of thought......

i think that an increase in adult membership would also serve to increase the larger body
of interests, topics, and such that would appear on Kupika....

politics, religion, news, sports, music, entertaintment, outdoors activities, literature,
commerce, jobs, etc. are just some of the many areas that would be greatly expanded by a
more diverse and older population of members...

with the population so heavily skewed just seems to me that the same things are
what get talked about and featured by members...and its just a bit tedious really.....

anime/ but still, a bit overloaded imho
music...of a limited scope with a few exceptions
popular entertainment....again usually of only a limited scope
literature....anything other than Twilight anyone?
budding sexuality...important..but ugh....
junior-high drama....
inane online romances.....

with of course a few you-have-to-admit minor exceptions on the part of some members....the
above sums up like 90% of the content of Kupika

aren't you guys just a bit tired of this?  this stuff would still be there, im just saying
that an increased and more diverse population would add to this and that would make Kupika
even better....

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