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Debate Fifteen: Political Correctness and Religious Sensitivity


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3 September 2009, 04:22 AM   #1
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Sorry about the wordy title. I didn't really know how to title this. I was just wondering
what people thought of political correctness in general, basically renaming things to make
them less offensive but especially in a religious context. 

I've never run across this myself, but I've heard that some people get offended if someone
says "Merry Christmas", because they aren't Christians so people should say "Happy
Holidays" instead. At the same time, I've heard other people that think being politically
correct is stupid and become just as offended if someone says "Happy Holidays" instead of
"Merry Christmas". -__-"" What do you guys think?

Also, as an atheist surrounded by mostly Christian people, there are alot of times when
I'm not sure what the most polite thing to do is. All my Christian relatives know I am an
atheist, and they accept that as a personal choice on my part, but if I say, go to a
Christian wedding, is it more polite to join in prayers or to excuse myself from them? 

On one side I can see it as being polite to join in prayers, but to me it feels like I
shouldn't be praying when I don't believe in God. It feels like I'm somehow making fun of
those who do believe and I don't want to do that, especially since most of my relatives
would know I don't believe. But excusing myself from prayers feels like I'm demanding my
relatives to accommodate me. I know it's a sensitive topic, but I just want to be polite
and it's been bothering me for a while. What should I be doing? Am I just overthinking?

tl;dr :
Being politically correct. Stupid or not stupid?


NOTE: I don't want this to become a debate about Religion, or about the existence
of God. A lot of internet forums ban that type of discussion, and for good reason too.
Really, I'm asking people how they deal with being polite about sensitive issues or issues
people tend to get angry about. Not just religion, but also politics or
pro-choice/pro-life and stuff too.

3 September 2009, 10:26 AM   #2
Zee
Joined: 22 May 2009
Posts: 10
I've heard that some people get offended if someone says "Merry Christmas", because they aren't Christians so people should say "Happy Holidays" instead.
The whole "Merry Christmas thing offends me because I'm not Christian", that to me comes across as incredibly rude and that they're incredibly stupid to be sensitive over that. I'm no longer a Christian, but it's nice to share and join in religious occasions with others. I'm not sure what meaning they came up with to "Merry Christmas" that makes it so offensive to them, but honestly what the hell? To me that's saying "I love you" that's replied with "I hate you".
At the same time, I've heard other people that think being politically correct is stupid and become just as offended if someone says "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas".
That is just as rude. It's exactly like saying Merry Christmas. As long as they don't say "Merry Christmas offends me, say Happy Holidays instead," It's not rude to say Happy Holidays. I'm not a fan of political correctness. It's made a majority of people use this to their advantage and act like a bunch of dickheaded kindergardeners. As a result the rest of us are walking through eggshells so not to "offend them". "oh boo hoo, a man said a bad word to me today and it offended me so you must tell him off for me" "oh boo hoo, I saw a programme on television that offended me you must ban it" Of course, if you were being violently abused verbally, emotionally or physically or if someone was extremely slandering a certain group(s) then of course by all means take action, but if it's something stupidly small like "oh, that packaging is racist because it has a coloured man on it and he is holding a plunger therefore it he's a plumber which is a working class job which means they're saying he's a slave. It may offend a coloured person!". As if a person, other than them, would see that small detail and feel offended by it. In conclusion:
Being politically correct. Stupid or not stupid?
Stupid when taken a tad too far.
Also, as an atheist surrounded by mostly Christian people, there are alot of times when I'm not sure what the most polite thing to do is. All my Christian relatives know I am an atheist, and they accept that as a personal choice on my part, but if I say, go to a Christian wedding, is it more polite to join in prayers or to excuse myself from them?
If they accept that you are an athiest, then they may understand if you don't pray along, but if you do I suppose that they would appreciate that you're willing to take part. Whenever I've been in this situation, I've always opted for "praying with them" because my concience says it's polite to. So, what I say to that is just so what you feel is right to do.

3 September 2009, 06:02 PM    #3
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"Merry Christmas", because they aren't Christians so people should say "Happy Holidays" instead.
I just go with the flow and say 'happy new year' or whatever. Since January 1st is the official start of the year, it can't actually offend anybody, because then the entire government of Britain, the US, Canada etc. would be offensive. =)
Also, as an atheist surrounded by mostly Christian people, there are alot of times when I'm not sure what the most polite thing to do is. All my Christian relatives know I am an atheist, and they accept that as a personal choice on my part, but if I say, go to a Christian wedding, is it more polite to join in prayers or to excuse myself from them?
Point out that your an atheist to get out of church at holidays. Go figure! Joking aside, just behave respectably, e.g. don't tell them god is fiction.
On one side I can see it as being polite to join in prayers
Lying to god is a sin, isn't it?
Being politically correct. Stupid or not stupid?
I'd say this was more about Religion, but...the PCS follows me around like the stench of a sewer after I said that emos aren't talking to. Ah, irony. They don't know that they should trust nerds with stuff like labels...blah blah blah...


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