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12 May 2007, 03:05 PM   #1
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Okay, I just wanna talk about some people and there opinions. Everyone has an opinion,,
it doesn't have to be the same as yours. People need to relise there opinion is neither
right or wrong. Your opinion is not a fact, if someone disagrees it doesn't mean they're
wrong.

Some people get all debate-ish if someone disagrees with there opinion. If you use 3
debate points and they still disagree move on, don't keep buggin them to change. And just
cuz they disagree with you, doesn't mean they're a horrible person. I just thought some
people needed to hear that. Its sort of a good post for this club because alot of people
have different opinions about topics

12 May 2007, 10:45 PM   #2
Guest Poster
Actually, I disagree, to an extent.

Firstly, the word 'opinion' is way overused. If I were to say it is my opinion that 2+2=5,
that wouldn't make it any more right or justifiable. Logic is logic, and should be kept
away from the word 'opinion'. My core beliefs are all factual, and I can say with 100%
certainty that anyone who disagrees with me is wrong.

Beyond that, when you get into morality and such, stuff becomes more fluid, and it depends
on values and such. There is no universal right or wrong in that area. However, if someone
is to state 'The bible is not always right', and then say 'Being gay is wrong because it
says so in the bible', that view would be unsupported and thus not worthy of any value as
an 'opinion'.

Personally, I only use the word 'opinion' when I am talking about personal tastes, such as
music.

'Just cuz they disagree with you, doesn't mean they're a horrible person' <-- That depends
on your view :P Horrible is a subjective term, and I may call anyone horrible if I like.
Take this example, if I were to say "I think it's fine to kill blacks and gays", would you
not consider me a horrible person? I know I would if someone else were to say it.

12 May 2007, 10:54 PM   #3
Guest Poster
i like to debate...im interested in pplz opinions but im a natural debater when it comes
to opinions on topics.

13 May 2007, 12:45 PM   #4
Guest Poster
to neoeno: 2+2=5 wouldn't be an opinion. the correct answer is 4 and thats math. Math and
logic are facts. Facts are either true are false. I think you mean your knowledge
instead of beleifs. Beliefs is what you believe is true, knowledge is what you
know is true.

I know i didn't make it clear, but I didn't mean like that I mean like your
favorite store is Wal*Mart, and I say I hate that store. But you do have a point with
examples like that. However most people don't agree with killing innocent people

to evanescence_lvr: I agree with you. I do like to debate. Debate is the wrong word with
what  said before. I mean like you disagrees with what someone thinks and they act like
you insulted them and start getting heated

13 May 2007, 02:47 PM   #5
Guest Poster
Yes... that is what I was explaining, I know. I don't think believe and know are mutually
exclusive though. I believe that 2+2=4 and I know that 2+2=4. Knowledge implies fact,
belief does not but it also does not preclude it. I use the word beliefs because if I were
to say 'my core knowledge', most people would not understand what I am talking about.

Just because most people think something doesn't make it true. That's an example of the
argument from majority fallacy. My point was that opinions can still be wrong, at least in
the sense most people use them.

13 May 2007, 11:40 PM   #6
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Joined: 12 Apr 2007
Posts: 21
well, the tricky thing is, many people have different definitions of what exactly an
opinion is, which in a way gets into more opinions and debates..... its a never-ending
vicious cycle

14 May 2007, 10:56 AM   #7
Guest Poster
Oh my goodness, your right

14 May 2007, 03:59 PM   #8
Guest Poster
Yeah, so quit hasslin' us Cowyeshia :P Opinion is a social construction!

Way I see it, as long as people don't get into personal insults, all is fine. Until that
point, it's only a debate.

23 May 2007, 07:53 PM    #9
Guest Poster
I'm not agreeing with you neoeno. And actually, neoeno, I'm sick of you acting like a
bitch and it is disgusting me, especially how you don't even make sence and act like your
some speech writer or what



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