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20 May 2010, 06:47 PM   #1
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Is America" the best country in the world? 

Is America exceptional?

Recently the Texas School Board which makes decisions about which textbooks to use in its
schools has embraced those books which favor whats called "american exceptionalism"

American exceptionalism is the theory that the United States occupies a special niche
among the nations of the worldin terms of its national credo, historical evolution,
political and religious institutions, and its being built by immigrants. The roots of the
belief are attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville, who claimed that the then-50-year-old
United States held a special place among nations, because it was the first modern

Because of Texas being the largest market for schoolbooks and the nature of the text book
industry, it could mean that such books get used by many other states as well and thus a
lot of students across america will be taught these things.

The American Exceptionalism is only part of the controversy. There are a lot more issues
and contentions due to that many of the textbooks are including information and points of
view that are "from the right" or in some cases ultra-conservative.

article you could read:

So what do you think? Should American students be taught that the U.S. is a special
nation and stands above all other countries and nations in a very exceptional way? 

Is it true? Is it arrogant? Is it ok?

*the name "America" originally applied and belonged to the "new world" or what we know as
the northern, central, south american continents but over time has been taken as
self-identifying by the U.S. Some persons, particularly those of other nations of north,
central and south america sometimes object to this.

20 May 2010, 08:35 PM   #2
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America, Is not the best country by far.
We may have the most freedom and rights but our economy is by far HORRIBLE.
You can barely get a job. We have a lot of homeless people. It is harder to get an
education here rather in, let's say China.
Our discipline is horrid. They're way to many rude people. 
Yes, We are better then 3rd world countries but we have a lot of faults.
We are not the best, that is an opinion.
Students are to be taught facts. Not opinions. 
Basically, New Zealand has one of the best economies, England has more a strict
discipline. Germany, France, Italy, Russia, etc. have more of nice people and keep there
people together.

America is not the BEST. It's an opinion .

20 May 2010, 08:40 PM   #3
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I think NZ is the most laid back country, down to earth n' all :D

20 May 2010, 08:57 PM   #4
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We may have the most freedom and rights
Not. At. All.

20 May 2010, 08:58 PM   #5
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Mostly, I was just saying it.
We have more freedoms in religion, speech, etc.
Not as other things(:

21 May 2010, 02:23 AM   #6
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All countries are equal, the US is just the most dangerous country in the world,
although it's a lot less dangerous now that Bush is out.

Everyone knows the internet will eventually spawn it's own country, inhabited only by
mudkipz, llamas and lolcats. It will be governed by Ceiling Cat and Basement Cat.

21 May 2010, 02:23 AM   #7
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Or are we talking about Hetalia

21 May 2010, 10:33 AM   #8
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Oh dear.. I see enough of a superiority complex around without it being taught in

21 May 2010, 10:44 AM   #9
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@^:...Everyone on this post is non-american except OB and Decipher (who didn't think the
US was exceptional).

21 May 2010, 11:52 AM   #10
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Uh..OK. I wasn't referring to the people in this thread in my previous post.

21 May 2010, 10:41 PM   #11
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I don't think the U.S. is exceptional in any way. It has its flaws like every other
nation on this planet. It's too arrogant. 

I think kids should be taught stuff the way it REALLY is and not the way someone covers it
up, thinking its the correct and true way. What's the use of learning from someone's point
of veiw and when they go into the real world they're going to notice how shit really is.
Might as well show them how it is from the start.

21 May 2010, 11:00 PM   #12
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@hot sauce

the thing is that is easier said then done. the old adage about "History is written by the
Victors" is true

pretty much every textbook on social studies or history is going to be biased one way or
another or give incomplete to one-side.

Imagine the history of the U.S. expansion of the West. When I grew up we were taught about
Manifest Destiny and such and the treatment of the native americans was given very short
coverage...maybe we had slightly more only cause I lived in New Mexico where Indian
culture is somewhat acknowledged. 

But consider how that history looks from the Indian perspective?

very different. so theres really no way of teaching people exactly "how it is" because how
it is depends very much on where you stand and your perspective of the scene.

22 May 2010, 04:53 AM   #13
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@Above: for one thing, you're calling them indians -_-;

22 May 2010, 03:09 PM   #14
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@^:...Everyone on this post is non-american except OB and Decipher (who didn't think the US was exceptional
I. Am. NOT. American. just saying.

23 May 2010, 02:47 AM    #15
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Sorry, I'll fix that later.

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