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Tuesday, 3 May 2011
05:41:47 PM (GMT)
"They took the bins out today". Right, let's get down to business, because I have many a theory on this whole conspiracy at the moment. Unless you've been living under a rock or in Scotland, then you'll probably know that Osama bin Laden was supposedly "murdered" yesterday morning, 2nd May 2011, but a secret USA FBI operation in Pakistan. Now, I'm not denying that they got him, because they indeed did, but I have a few observations that I shall now make on the subject. Seeing as it's obviously a very sensitive subject for many people, I'd love to hear your views and opinions about this whole situation. And your bad jokes about it too... see mine. XD He's not dead. I am 75% sure that he isn't. And here is why. 1. The FBI lied. The operation did not happen this weekend at all. I am 100% certain about that - the actual operatin in Pakistan happened last week in fact, probably Tuesday or Wednesday. This is backed up by the fact that the English Royal Family obviously knew about it before Will and Kate's wedding on Friday - they cancelled their honeymoon to Jordan last week, probably with the knowledge of what the FBI had done, though the information had not been disclosed then. It would be too risky to have the heir to the English throne out in the wide world with such political unrest. The honeymoon was cancelled last week. 2. Everything that followed happened far too quickly to not raise suspicion. And my father, who is a high ranking miltary officer and who has served in the Middle East mutliple times, agrees that it is very unlike usual miltaristic movements. They executed Osama, preformed his autopsy, took "DNA reports" and dumped his body in the sea in less than a day? Unlikely. It is probable that they either wanted to dup the body before anybody could preform a second autopsy to confirm it's identity (think Princess Diana's death... similar circumstances... also MJ), or even if their was a body to begin with. Those photos in the papers have been proven as fake, before you say. It's not Osama - it is actually a photo from April 2009. 3. It is highly likely that the American government have seized Osama and are keeping him locked away in a high security prison (bets are on Nevada currently), but they can't announce to the world that they are keeping him. Think about it. If al-Qaeda discovered this, they'd be all over America trying to find him. By announcing his death, the Americans have gained themselves more time to prepare for the onslaught of terror, but also they've gained a propaganda advantage of sorts, a victory over the Taliban and what not. It's a morale boost for the American and Western publics, thinking we killed the bitch in cold blood. And let's think about it some more... Osama has no use to any one dead... at all. Yes, it's revenge, sweet revenge for all those lives lost - both American, Afghani and worldwide, but there is absolutely no other gain for the FBI in killing him. They'll want him alive, they'll want as much information out of him as possible - they wouldn't just let a major lead into al-Qaeda and the Taliban die just like that. They'll be torturing him somewhere, certainly. 4. This might just be a bad joke on the FBI's part, but... Osama bin Laden, announced dead on 2nd May 2011. ... Adolf Hitler, announced dead on 2nd May 1945. Bad joke or cruel coincidence? You can be the judge of that one, but I find it very interesting. --------------------------------- "It's been a real Disney weekend - the Prince got married and the bad guy got killed." Anyway, there's my reasoning for believing that the bitch is not in fact dead... perhaps take it into consideration and do your own digging. Or maybe I just love my conspiracy theories too much. The terror threat will be on an all time high over the next few years - even though I doubt we'll see anything from al-Qaeda for about two months or so... I fear for my country especially - our 2012 Olympics and the Queen's Diamond Jubilee appear to be the prime targets for terrorist activity in the near future, as well as the tenth anniversary of 9/11 later this year... though that's more unlikely (terrorists don't seem to be the bitchy kind). Nevertheless, it's all coming out of our pockets. I just wish the government would up their own game with security checks, particularly in airports. Not to sound rascist, but most bloody terrorists are middle eatsern blokes with turbans and beards, so why waste so much time checking grannies and five year old kids, when you might be watsing the time you would spend thoroughly checking someone who fits a bomber profile? Whatever the case, the FBI got their man, there is no doubt about that (and I've been bumming around the FBI website for days). Obama said he'd get him within his four years in office, and he did. This is certainly a victory for him in that respect. Also, Pakistan is a real bitch: "lol we dont have him lol". Yeah, right. Ot only turns out we was within miles of your equivilant of Sandhurst, eh? Suspisious. But you have nukes, so we wont say anything offical about it. But I think that whether or not this man is dead is of little importance in the long run - first, we should be thinking about all those who have suffered at the hands of Bin Laden and his extremists. Those who lost their lives in 9/11, and all those effected by that, the bombings across the rest of the world (notably the potentially linked London bombings of 2005), and perhaps, more close to my own heart, our service men and women who are defending our nations from worse people. My dad fought for our country, and I'm incredibly proud of him. I've seen what that can do to a person, so I hope that we have now taken a giant leap forward in the war on terrorism, and that people won't have to suffer for much longer. Maybe our generation will be the ones who turn it all around... ...or perhaps North Korea will just nuke us all. Yeah, that's more likely. "Elton John wrote a new song to commemorate this day: 'Sandles in the bin'." EDIT: If anyone says that he was given "a proper burial as Isalm requires", I'll ask you to question since when did the FBI actually give a shit about any of that? They're not paid to be nice people, they basically control the whole fucking world. The FBI are more powerful than any monarchy, prime minister or president anywhere... only MI5/6 comes close, and that's still a long way off. EDIT 2: Might I stress again that all of this is merely opinion and theory, just supported by evidence I have collected. Make up your ow minds for sure, but please don't take it out on me. We are all entitled to our own opinions and beliefs, but not the right to force them on everyone else. EDIT 3: Yum. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/osama-bin-laden-conspiracy-theories.html
Last edited: 4 May 2011

‹► Asim ◄› says:   3 May 2011   233593  
Pakistan's current government is a real bitch, that's involved with
Obama and their corrupt ways. Not Pakistan as a nation. K thanks.
Bootheghost says:   3 May 2011   904413  
LOL WHATEVS. People outside of the government (his neighbours, people
in the village?) blatantly knew Osama was there... the miltary too.
Yet nothing.

But of course, we still have to appear friendly to them. ;D Nuclear
war here we come!! 
Nook says:   3 May 2011   544040  
‹► Asim ◄› says:   3 May 2011   998996  
Sure they did. The guy killed was probably not even Osama. People in
the village were interviewed and they were confused and could never
think that someone like him would be hiding there. Pakistan never had
terrorists, talibans or extremists before they joined the USA in "war
against terror". 
Obama wanted to do something like this 'cause the elections are coming
up so he wanted to be a winner to the public. 

And God forbid there is a nuclear war. Don't see why you're fond of
Bootheghost says:   3 May 2011   566146  
Lol, my opinions are above. Dear, I don't really want to start an
argument. I am merely interested in the conspiracy theories floating
around presently, and I feel they have a lot of weight to them this
time around.

Whether Pakistan or the Pakistanis or the Pakistand government or
whoever knew about this... all we know if that the country cannot be
trusted in it's present state, and that is all the is of importance
presently. There is little need to phrase it liked I am accusing all
Pakistanis - I'm not accuses every Muslim of being a bloody terrorist,
am I? Whatever, our thoughts should perhaps be better turned towards
those who suffered and still suffer because of the actions in the
Middle East.

Let's be honest, we're on the brink of an abyss into nuclear war... it
will not belong until the next nuke is dropped, believe me...
unless the Koreans get there first. 
‹lottecookies› says:   3 May 2011   853897  
I don't know what to believe, lol. Whatev, it never really concerned
me in the fact that his actions haven't done anything to affect my
life personally.

I would say that 9/11 was a tragedy, but then I'd get the conspiracy
sided people on here too. I was either that or the attention whores
that are the Americans wanting the world to look at them. 

Thissssss worldismesseduplololol.
Lol, hun it's called sarcasm - look it up |D 
‹► Asim ◄› says:   3 May 2011   875255  
It's USA that can't be trusted, it's people in the Middle East and
south asia that has suffered much more than Americans have suffered.
There have been bombings there not only from USA on innocent people,
but the terrorists have been killing a lot of people in those
countries as well, therefore they have suffered the most. 
Pakistan militants have recently been catching terrorists here and
there in certain regions and it's not like they're doing anything. 

And where is proof that the guy USA troops killed is Osama? People are
still looking for answers. Even his photo or any relevant footage is
being shown that it's actually Osama's body. It's all a load of BS so
that Obama can look good as they're running out of money and can't
afford to keep as much troops in those areas. 
And China is gonna soon become the super power while USA fall deeper
into the recession. Chinese and Pakistani are "friends" by militant
power and I doubt USA will drop another nuke like they did in
‹► Asim ◄› says:   3 May 2011   511906  
is not being shown*
‹colours and carousels♥› says:   3 May 2011   771838  
Personally I think he's been dead for years.

Maybe that's just me, but I swear to god there were reports floating
around the internet that he'd been killed quite some time ago.
‹► Asim ◄› says:   3 May 2011   186127  
I know, it's pretty obvious actually. 
fireonthemountain says:   3 May 2011   611443  
There have been "reports" on the internet about basically everyone
being dead. Eminem, MJ (before he really did die...), etc.

Anyway. To the diary itself: I tend to hate conspiracy theories
because I feel like they're sometimes a big stretch. There were
several points you brought up that make sense though, and something
definitely feels off about the whole thing. I'm just not a fan of
jumping to conspiracies immediately. xD 
‹colours and carousels♥› says:   3 May 2011   632581  
But that being said, once again there was no proof of this, but I do
agree with @fireonthemountain that there is something really
odd about this whole affair. 
‹goodfornothing› says:   3 May 2011   875498  
i'm going to be anti-american government for just one moment
and say that the government and the fbi and all those guys care
very much about image. how we look to everyone in the world is
honestly that is why i do believe bin laden was given a proper muslim
as obama said, " ...we must also reaffirm that the United States is
not and never will be at war with Islam. I’ve made clear, just as
President Bush did shortly after 9/11, that our war is not against
Islam. Bin Laden was not a Muslim leader." 
therefore we need to acknowledge the fact that we respect muslim
culture even in the bin laden's assassination. otherwise it appears to
the rest of the world as though we are in a war against islam,
because we failed to give a muslim terrorist a proper islamic burial.
i mean it really is all about appearances.

also, though obama's speech probably aired monday morning (may 2nd) in
england, the speech was actually delivered at 10:30pm on sunday night
(may 1st). bin laden was therefore reported dead sunday morning (may
1st). so the tie-in with hitler is really not relevant. 

as to your point about the royal wedding:
the operation has been going on for months. obama had been tracking
him for months. last week they were able to certify their lead. 
in addition, if you look at a map, jordan and pakistan (where obama
knew bin laden had been hiding since he first heard his tip-off) are
far enough away from each other that i doubt the invasion and the
cancellation were connected. 
more likely the couple realized that a honeymoon to a section of the
world riddled with uprisings and rebellions (notably the uprising in
syria, jordan's neighbor, the government overthrow in egypt, also
basically jordan's neighbor, and the protests in iraq, lebanon, and
saudi arabia, also jordan's neighbors, and the protests in jordan
itself - all those happened this winter, meaning the governmental
adjustments are impacting the countries right now)... doesn't surprise
me that a place of such political unrest might not be the safest place
for two influential political leaders... just saying
Lyncheh says:   4 May 2011   257094  
I wonder if anyone here has ever been to Jordan...it's very safe. I
wouldn't have gone if it weren't. Not a royal or anything, but still.
Zelda3443 says:   4 May 2011   146032  
I pretty much agree with you. I think that if we got Osama at all, we
haven't killed him and the government just wants to give people a
false sense of security. And if we have killed him, then we're
vengeful idiots, he could be useful. Oh and I was just wondering,
isn't it the CIA that got him? I was pretty sure that the  FBI
generally dealt with possible terrorist threats INSIDE the country,
while the CIA worked on foreign threats elsewhere...then again maybe
I'm an uninformed idiot XP
Bootheghost says:   4 May 2011   360146  

Glad to hear other opinions... though keep it friendly people. Mine
are mere conspiracy theories, I'm not saying they're the truth. I just
feel that something is incredibly weird about this whole affair...

Notably, as the daughter of a soldier who has served in the Middle
East, you could also expect my upbringing to have been one involving
more harsh political opinions, which might explain my opinions above. 
Bootheghost says:   4 May 2011   286599  
Just found this, might be of interest to you - it reminded me of your
point about them honouring Islamic traditon:

"Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan, whose son was killed in the
Iraq war, also disputed the news on Facebook. She said: "I am sorry,
but if you believe the newest death of OBL, you're stupid. Just think
to yourself - they paraded Saddam's dead sons around to prove they
were dead - why do you suppose they hastily buried this version of OBL
at sea? This lying, murderous Empire can only exist with your
brainwashed consent - just put your flags away and THINK!"

Food for thought, perhaps? Conspiracy theories fill me up nicely. 
‹► Asim ◄› says:   4 May 2011   642375  
That's exactly what I think. 
‹goodfornothing› says:   4 May 2011   720137  
can't say i have any knowledge of everything involving saddam hussein;
the majority of what i said is based at least in part on my gut
feeling, but since i have no memories of hussein's sons being killed,
i can't say whether or not it was an issue that their religion be

i mean it might also have to do with the fact that bush oversaw their
deaths and obama oversaw this one. cus obviously obama's just a
chiller guy c: 
Bootheghost says :   5 May 2011   749316  
Of course, of coure... just speculationg, you know me. I can't say I'm
overly knowledgeable about the tendencies of American presidents
either (other than Bush was kinda rubbish), so you have an interesting
point there~ I shall have to do more digging XD 

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