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Monday, 7 April 2008
09:47:15 AM (GMT)
Today I received an email with a concerning subject, "Really Concerned".

You have kids who are 8 and 9 years old with profiles on here. I can't think of a more obvious way to introduce young children to peodophiles. I don't understand how allowing children so young to have a profile on a website is at all necessary. Do you have children/nieces/nephews? Would you be happy for them to be on a website that has the very real potential to put them in that kind of situation? If not then why do you think it's ok to put other children at risk? p.s. I'm not some irrational parent with a chip on their shoulder. I'm a 20 year old student without any children. It's just the thought that my little sister could have a profile on your site, which may be prayed on by a peodophile, really bothers and upsets me. Please don't make it any easier for such a thing to happen and enforce an appropriate age limit. Don't make it easier for horrific situations to happen. You're kind of facilitating them at the moment.
What do you think? I think Kupika is pretty safe (considering its anonymity, with no email required and no photos) but it seems some people don't think so. Enforcing an age limit is pointless because there is no real way to verify the entered age. Hmm. The world is changing, Internet has become part of our lives and children need to be educated about the danger of being online.

Sanyu says:   7 April 2008   173583  

You've said it yourself, though: Kupika is not a kid's website. This
person should have messaged Neopets or Gaia or something.
neoeno says:   7 April 2008   772682  
It's like most problems with community websites: you can't solve

If the kid's not been taught about safe internetting or they're stupid
enough not to follow their parents guidance, it's not unreasonable to
expect the parent to supervise their internet usage.

Because I hate all this paedophile moral panic, I'd also like to point
out that sexual predators on non-children is a far more widespread
problem than paedophiles are.
‹AudioWhore› says:   7 April 2008   517292  

i really enjoy kupika
and i'm 13
13 is the usual age limit for pen pal websites and stuff like this
but i joined when i was just days over 11! [this isn't my first
account, if any of you guys are confused]

but i have run into some freaky people on here
but with the blacklisting and just not replying to messages/letters
you can easily keep yourself safe [though my mom blocked the page that
it loads to when you blacklist someone so blacklisting doesn't work
for me]
it is really a matter of free will
if you want to stop talking to someone creepy, then do it!
sure, if they are really messed up and make new accounts to follow you
then just keep blacklisting! or even make a new account yourself and
delete the other one!
it's not hard at all

i can see where some kids can get nervous and freak out if they
encounter one of the people that their parents and teachers warn them
about, but they need to remember to be strong.

[to Sanyu]
Neopets is EXTREMELY strict, i used to go on it all the time when i
was littler [7, 8, 9 years old] and they are extremely trigger happy
when it comes to disabling   accounts for being inappropriate
Sanyu says:   7 April 2008   413362  
:P I never got "into" Neopets. I guess that person likes Neopets then
*shrug* I hate it when websites end up doing the parenting. It sucks
when your free will is restricted by something that really shouldn't
have to be there.

It's probably even beyond the matter of parenting, though. Children
act all innocent when it suits them, and when it's an inconvenience
they break out the swears and hXc act. It's tiring... and it's
disturbing how I'm barely 18 and am able to say "back in my day" O.o
Lyncheh says:   7 April 2008   777148  
If he/she wants a zero chance of his/her sister bumping into a
paedophile online..she shouldn't be on the internet. They're
everywhere, probably. ._.
xxxlouisianaxxx says:   7 April 2008   891663  
I think that this site is fine except for the cybers!
‹Miharu-chan› says:   7 April 2008   985915  
I think this website is alright, though some people can be called..
Plus, it's an anonymous website for goodness sake.
Whoever that is should make up their mind and look up the word,
'anonymous' in the dictionary.
And, it's their sister's fault if she ever give off information so
loosely in her profile.
saralyn247 says:   7 April 2008   794334  
Ahaha. Another one of those. I really don't think Kupika is that
dangerous... and if you don't give out any personal information then
there is no way you could really be in danger or "prayed" on. xD Prey,
people. Not pray.
‹ruthie .› says:   7 April 2008   114752  
As long as you are smart on the internet and don't give out any
personal details there isn't really any problem.
‹Naita› says:   7 April 2008   911487  
Kupika is mostly safe. You can avoid things if you have the talent,
like I do. If this person thinks we are finding out what Paedophiles
are, I dont even know what they are! Kupika is fun, and I think this
email is really important.
Shaysta7 says:   7 April 2008   929295  
I think 1.) Idk what a pae... is anyway soo..
2.)Kupika is kind off..being attacked with pron and stuff..i mean
there's already little kids getting sucked into and stuff. But hey
thats just my opinion. and since you could decrease the
amount of porn  if you wanted to try to make kupika better. :]
Shaysta7 says:   7 April 2008   831473  

oh and other than that I think its fine! :D
‹GatorBoots› says:   7 April 2008   482378  
"Enforcing an age limit is pointless because there is no real way to
verify the
entered age." 

I totally agree with the above sentence.
Because any little kid wanting to get on the website could just their
age, and TADA! They have an account.

I think Kupika is a pretty safe place also.
The website isn't the one harming the children.
The children are the one's harming their selves,
by talking to random people on the site and by giving out their
personal information to people they think are their friends.

To reply to the above comments:
Shaysta, Hina cannot control the things people put on their profiles
and other pages.
‹HANNER› says:   8 April 2008   452777  
Aris, thats true.
Your right.
I mean, like... this is an anonymous website, the most personal things
you are asking for it Country/age.. but it's not like people cant lie
about that. You are so right. This is anonymous.. and either way.. you
could go to websites with age limits, and find like 8 year old
children there too. 

And if the kids on here are stupid enough to give away there
address... then there PARENTS should take away internet access and buy
the kids a TV. Your right, you have to way to control it here... you
have to way to ban people from pictures/names, etc. So it's there
fault, not yours.

So, Hina.. just ignore the kinda stuff.
You are a genius!

(By the way.. long time since I got a letter from you)
‹GatorBoots› says:   8 April 2008   915451  
*fake their age
Timelord says:   8 April 2008   657456  
Yeah. Kupika is already pretty safe. You can blacklist, and your
diaries on protect. You can even just ignore them.

Don't listen to that person!

Give us their e-mail and we will all have an e-mail war with this
person! D:<
Kareh says:   8 April 2008   413133  
God, I hate people that make the internet out to be bad.
There's nothing wrong with the 'net, just the people that use it.
And people will just fake their age if you change it
I did that so many times when I was eight years old.

Although at eight even I was smart enough to know not to give out my
Back then I was onto Habbo, Neopets, Starcraft, just about any online
game I could find.
If kids nowadays are dumb enough to give out personal details then
simply don't let them on the 'net.
‹LovelyBastard♥› says:   8 April 2008   641198  
I think this site is pretty  safe.But people on here are not
safe,There's sometimes chain mail.But mostly there's people who like
virtual s e x.That bothers me.So that's pretty much the dangerous part
of kupika.
kenna_horselover says:   8 April 2008   992697  
yes there is one person i know who is a paedophiles but i blacklisted
him and what is the age limit?
‹rainbowflavourbatman_♥› says:   8 April 2008   965738  
I think it's the kid's fault if they get preyed on, you have plenty
safety options, and if they choose not to use them it's their fault.
‹...Lauraa x3...› says:   8 April 2008   477355  
WANNA DO IT TOO!! X3....sorrie hina-chama

Im Laura btw 
Zovesta says:   8 April 2008   691145  
Age limit WOULD keep away the pedophiles on here though. Wanna know
why? Because the children could just bluff an age above 14, and they'd
be fine. The pedophiles would just check the age and leave.
Lyncheh says:   8 April 2008   915252  
"The pedophiles would just check the age and leave."

The paedophiles would just sign up pretending to be a young person,
you mean. >_<
Nostradamus says:   8 April 2008   299146  
um.. well i think that you should be at least like 12 to have an
account onhere because then you've been raught about pedofiles and
such by ur skool and parents. So i believe that there should be an age
‹-Swaggnιfιcent khιdd|«› says:   8 April 2008   411148  
Well.........I dont know what to say about it
You should be atleast 13 to have an account or sumthin
tigerwolf546 says:   8 April 2008   495536  
and besides little kids who want to sign up on a website with an age
restriction tend to put in a fake birthdate that fits the requirements
‹Kiwily<3› says:   9 April 2008   885259  
tell the kids to go to club penguin, which can probably also have
but, what children do is the parent's respnosibility, and not that of
the webcreator.
Zovesta says:   9 April 2008   731612  
"Lyncheh", you are missing the POINT. People would know they are
pedophiles (or just stupid kids) if they say they are YOUNG. No way to
get to a kid then.
‹actual-mermaid› says:   9 April 2008   564473  
well, it's is ANONYMOUS, so it's safe because no one knows who you
Actually, it is true that there are some weird/pervs here but what the
heck? just BLACKLIST's easy...and they shouldn't put their
pictures here, too...

I agree with Kiwilie :D
It's the parent/s' responsibility, they should be monitoring what
sites their children are going...
Oroborus21 says:   9 April 2008   731726  
I don't believe its your job or any website owner or moderator to be
a PARENT to anyone except your own children, if you have any.

Whether it is their own real world neighborhood or a virtual
community, it is no one's responsibility except a PARENT (or perhaps
if an older sibling assumes that duty their's as well) to:

1) TEACH their children all of the sensible things that a child in
today's world should know, from don't accept car rides or candy from
strangers, don't go off with the stranger who comes up to them at a
playground and say's "mommy wants you to come with me" - no matter how
nice her smile or pretty or friendly she is, to not to give out their
personal information willy nilly online or in person to anyone, etc.


2) SUPERVISE their children's activities. Most parents wouldnt just
let their child talk to a complete stranger for hours on end on the
telephone late at night, yet the very same parent who wouldn't do that
allows their child to IM or exchange email or chat, etc. via the
computer! (People must learn that the same rules they learned as
sensible behavior with one mode of communication technology (the
telephone) are mostly applicable to a different mode of communication
technology (the computer/web)!)

Every individual is unique in their level of maturity, sophistication
and wisdom of experience. It would be impossible for any website
owner/moderator to know these things of the visitors/guests. There are
some 14 year olds (or older teens) that are more stupid, immature,
insensible and gullible than some 10 year olds! Age is poor gauge of
reasonableness of whether a person should be a member of any
particular virtual community or engaged in online activities which may
bring them into contact with persons of all sorts.

Only the PARENT stands in or should stand in the position best able to
understand the ability and vulnerability of their child. 

If a parent is abdicating his or her responsibility then they have no
one to blame but themselves.


To the above, there is one more thing to be added and that is that due
to the fact that Kupika is created in such a way that it allows
complete anonymity, and "fantasy profiles" (anime character personas
etc.) to simply masquerading as a different gender or age or location,
this does raise the risk somewhat that a predator could attempt to use
the system for a nefarious purpose. For this reason parents should be
a little extra vigil
Oroborus21 says:   9 April 2008   635677  
. For this reason parents should be a little extra vigilant with
points 1 & 2 above.

Some may even want to instruct their children that they cannot be
"friends" with anyone who's information isn't verifiable or who
chooses and operates in anonymity. 

For those that seem like they are close friends of their child, it
would be prudent for them to contact their friend's parents and
actually speak with them on the phone or via email...both confirming
that an adult on the other end is properly supervising and concerned
about their own child's conduct as well as verifying that the
person/child is who they say they are.

Of course, this is speaking of a parent actually doing their job which
we all know sadly in our world doesn't happen very well. Many parents
suck at being a parent, especially when it comes to their child's
virtual world dealings and activities.

This brings us to where we all come in.

If I am standing on a street corner and while a mother is distracted
her young toddler starts wandering towards the rushing traffic, I
don't (and I don't think anyone with any sensibility would either) say
"Oh that's not my kid, and it's her mother's job to watch out for
her."  No, of course not, each of us would in that moment act as a
temporary protector for that child and guide her back to her mom or

Similarly, while it is the first responsibility of the parent to
EDUCATE and SUPERVISE their own children, in a virtual community, we
all have a bit of shared responsibility to look out for each other,
especially those that seem vulnerable.  In the real world we see such
things as a Neighborhood Watch or on the subway, the Guardian Angels,
and while we do not need to engage in either witch hunts or
vigilantism or decry persons for bad behavior or who may have
viewpoints which differ from ours, when a REAL situation arises which
is so obvious a danger to those of our more vulnerable members, I am
confident that my fellow Kupikians will raise a cry of alarm and come
to the aid of such a person in such a situation.

The provision of the Blacklisting/blocking feature is an excellent one
and it is the chief safeguard that a person can use and should be
taught to use. 

One final thing left to be said. Whatever else may be described about
the online virtual world and its dangers, it does have one important
positive aspect to it, and that is that it is obviously NOT the real

True while online, a person's mind and sens
princessnick says:   9 April 2008   696567  
the first coment sanyu said is right thats wat i think
Oroborus21 says:   9 April 2008   726579  
One final thing left to be said. Whatever else may be described about
the online
virtual world and its dangers, it does have one important positive
aspect to it, and that is that it is obviously NOT the real world.

True while online, a person's mind and sensibilities might be
influenced and the
person may be exposed to images, ideas, thoughts, solicitations,
information and communication that might be harmful; YET when all is
tallied up,
these things pale in comparison to the real world horrors which could
befall them in the offline world.

It is a statistical fact that most persons are in greater danger from
harm by a
person known to them offline or a person within their local community,
someone who sees them every day, who is familiar with their patterns
and activities and vulnerabilities, than they are at risk from a
stranger online.

The bottom line is that in the online world NO ONE can be a victim
unless they first make themselves vulnerable by not 1) being educated
or sophisticated enough to recognize online dangers, not 2) moving
away from danger when it is recognized or should be recognized and 3)
by taking the online relationship into the real world.

online relationships offline into the "real world."  If a person is
too young or immature to do that, then it is the absolute role of the
parent or guardian to make sure that their child obeys this modern
mextreehugger says:   9 April 2008   586894  
No Hina, don't listen to them. Age limits mean nothing, I'm on
myspace even though I'm 'too young'. And it is the parents
responsibility to concern themselves with what the younger children
see online.
Shiny_Umbreon says:   9 April 2008   355874  
im 15.....................
and soon to be 16..
on sept.15...

I dont think this si bad..
And besides.
I cant pronounce paedophiles.
girlydiva97 says:   9 April 2008   452643  
so just don't talk to them
Fabby says:   10 April 2008   559343  
Shouldn't you be required to be 13 to sign up anyway? COPPA, anyone?
I'm not saying they won't still fake the age, but even so, isn't that
a required policy on any site that collects information?
hayleyjaine says:   10 April 2008   125351  
i think this websites alright... nobody can tell if the info your
giving is right or wrong... you cant really enforce an age ban cause
that would be no good....... the only prob is when personal info is
given out by the persons disgretion so kupika's safe.... and with
blacklisting at least they cant keep annoying anyone......but hey
thats just my thoughts... i make sure i've talked to the person awhile
or i know them before i give out a name and if i do give something out
like an email that it has nothing personal on it.....who knows kupika
is probably about as safe as it gets... plus it isnt that  well known
to heaps of people keeping most away.......
mason111 says:   11 April 2008   893499  
look u ppl im 10 who cares!
RobinScorpio says:   12 April 2008   983832  
well, legally, u have to be 13 to talk to strangers on the internet,
but come on!!! we should at lest have 1 website where we can chat b4
we tern 13. im only 12!!! nd ive been on kupika since i was 10
Chidori_Chan says:   16 April 2008   265595  
Good grief!!!!!!!!We all know who to blacklist-the annoying people!
littlemissluella says:   20 April 2008   247531  
This may be true, but it's up to the parents to make sure they know
what their kids are doing. The kids should be responsible enough to
tell their parents where they're roaming online.
Shayna_300 says:   22 April 2008   681278  
you asked me if I was really 12 on my diary. the sad truth is yes.
‹lumière du soleil› says:   22 April 2008   288447  
actually..the bad people on the internet are just freakin a lot of
parents and stuff out,that's why some parents are kinda strict about
certain websites on the internet that might harm them by a way or
another,but those bad ppl are not the devil!!i mean they are also
people and people can defeat people by thoughts,if every parent really
wants to protect his kid from those harms,they should be together as a
one hand and convince those bad people that there is no use of all
that and what will they gain??money??it can finish,and they can go to
jail,etc..get my point?
nickjr says:   26 April 2008   521942  
I got some sexual  related messages on here. I shwd them to meh
pareents, they said to quit. S I get n here very rarely. SECUAL THINGS
ARE NOT GOOD FOR BEFORE TEEN YEARS! No offense, hina, but this
site is badly managed.
Chidori_Chan says:   1 May 2008   725311  
Well,just because of some STUPID PEOPLE doesn't mean that this site
Freedom is free.The person has the right to choose.
Even if your country does have a royal blood controlling the
It's the person's fault if they mind the annoying people.
They have to learn to IGNORE.
And all the rest.We have to know how these things feel.
We have to EXPERIENCE.Know what's this,and that.Age bans are no fun.
blueberrybee says:   14 May 2008   792182  
I have accounts on both Gaia and Neopets. Gaia........there are so
many bad people there-it should be adults only or something!
Neopets...ugh. They're so technical now......But little kids SHOULD be
allowed to play. When I was 8 I wasn't allowed on and it wasn't so
fun! Yes, we all need to be experienced with internet and what to tell
other people.
AerithLight says:   29 May 2008   156584  
I think that Kupika is very well safe also. I mean, having no age
limit are part of the reason why people enjoy this site. I know my
best friends and I think so. Because, everytime we'd tell people about
Kupika, they'd always be like, "What's the age limit. Do you have to
be 13? Can I join?" and once they hear that there's not age limit.
They become all happy, and immediately checks out the site. I feel so
safe in kupika and I love it.

And, pedos aren't much of a danger, really. I mean, well known people
here actually take the time to notice our pedos, perverts, and informs
everyone for safety. No really. Go through the diaries, and you'll
see. Then somehow they build groups and bash out those creeps. Kupika
is probably the most safest one, I've seen yet.
Lizzie_Angel94 says:   15 June 2008   488872  
i get where the person messaging is coming from but this is a pretty
safe site in my opinion.
‹yeahitsLEIGH♥› says:   14 August 2008   235155  
Yes, it could be dangerous but it could be safe as well. It depends
on how you use it - I mean, if you post loads of pics and put personal
information on your profile then yeah, it's dangerous. But if you just
stick to the rules and put on your profile stuff that you like and
means you can't be identified, it's perfectly safe.
‹zach33› says :   12 April 2011   952018  
wel there vampy


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