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Sunday, 20 May 2007
12:04:09 PM (GMT)
Having observed the whole 'Oroborus21 is a perv!!!' incident over the last few days
that it has been public (ever since the personal ads against him appeared; not that
long, I know) I wanted to talk about it. Where better than here?
So, let us look at this like a debate about religion or history.
Oroborus21 is a pervert; and has at some point sent two pics of his nether-regions to
young female Kupika users.
Not going into the
copycats echo-ers and others involved more indirectly, the
main staters of this are: XcharmaineX, XkiahX AND Megan1997.
Argument for the statement
Well, he's 32...and has apparently sent pics of himself in a 'compromising position'
The rationality behind the argument
I'll give them their dues, it does seem suspicious that a 32 year old man is using a
chat-site aimed at kids and teenagers. I even thought so when I read Megan_1997's ad
(more on this later). His profile, when read with the idea that it is wrong for a man
of 32 to be on here, can seem suspicious; again, this was one of my initial thoughts
when reading his profile.
Argument against the statement
Here's a list:
--NOBODY has seen the pictures EXCEPT THE ACCUSERS! Surely if they wanted to convince
people that Oroborus21 really was a pervert, they'd ensure the original message plus
the pics were sent around.
--The accusers are sisters, except for Megan 1997. As I mentioned under the 'stated
by' section, there has been a number of 'echo-ers' who have been telling the rest of
the community about Oroborus21; there is no reason not to believe that XkiahX is the
predominant echo-er of them all.
--Megan_1997 appears to be a dummy user*. There has little to no activity aside from
accusing posts in various forms around the site. Regardless of whether she is
an actual user or is under the control of another existing member, the fact that one
of the accusors has no other ties to the site except for accusing Oroborus21 is
These are a bunch of my views which I wanted to include. I have kept them logical and
tried to maintain a sense of fairness/keep a lack of bias to them but I'm sure
they'll seem biased none the less...
--If Oroborus21 was a pervert, why hasn't the heads of the site been alerted to him
by now? The sisters have evidence so surely they'd be able to get him kicked off the
site once the heads see the pics for themselves.
--Linked to that, why haven't the authorities been involved yet? The girls that the
pictures have been sent to are under-age, so the police would have to listen
as it potentially shows that Oroborus21 is a paedophile of some form. Even though he
is in California and the accusers in England, the police would work together against
him if there was a case (it has been done; I'll dig up the newspaper reports on such
police collaberation if asked for them).
--Parents? They should know if their child has been sent a picture of such nature.
I'm 16 and if I was personally sent such a picture, the first to know would be a
member of my family or potentially I'd go to the police directly if I felt the
picture threatening enough. I can deal with most things, but such a picture is beyond
even the most web-savvy person's limits; it falls to the police.
--Oroborus21's evidence. This should actually go into the 'arguments against the
statement' section but to do so would cause the whole thing to become biased beyond
control. I've read his recent .pdf file and he has pulled together more points in his
defence than the accusers have collectively gathered in their attacks.
--Oroborus21 included personal history in his .pdf file. By personal history, I mean
messages and other private content that would be restricted to his account alone
unless he released them (as he has done). The phrase 'go ahead officer, I have
nothing to hide' springs to mind. That said, there's nothing stopping him with
holding evidence that proves the statement. If he did that, we'd be none the wiser.
However, the fact he has already given up personal messages doesn't exactly support
this theory. It doesn't stop said theory from being a possibility though.
--The accusers have done nothing to prove their point except post about how much of
an 'evil man' he is. This could be that they're too young to pull together the
points, but it doesn't take a genius to do so. I know kids in year 7 (that roughly
equates to 11-12 years old) who could manage to produce a more effective attack. This
isn't bias nor theory, as I've seen it happen both online and in school first hand (I
have a friend who has suffered because they did use their heads to make their
attacks more effective).
As with debates in history and religion, all I have to use for my decision is the
presented evidence and the strength of the evidence that has been shown. Which means,
unsurprisingly, my final assessment is that this whole thing is a malicious rumour
caused to damage Oroborus21's reputation and character that has managed to get out of
control in some regards, as net rumours tend to do. If I were you, reader, I'd take
the age old stance of 'innocent until proven guilty'. Maybe Oroborus21 is a perv,
maybe I'm wrong to doubt XcharmaineX, XkiahX and Megan_1997 but for now, and whilst
the evidence still holds for him, I'll believe that he is just a regular guy out to
One last point...I'm involved in a number of other communities, including livejournal
and several close-knit message boards, and they don't jump on someone's back just for
being older. On one board, I'm one of the youngest users and the eldest is in his
thirties. He chats to the rest of us without issue, and even offers advice when I get
stuck with my music! The rest, I indulge my interests and (I'll regret saying this at
some point, I'm sure) crushes with people at least twice my age. Want to know why
that is possible?
The secret is....
Keeping an open mind!!
There are perverts on the net, and I've spoken to a few (and as such stayed clear of
numerous websites) but the majority of people are regular people like you and me. So
to those still on terms with Oroborus21, ignore the accusations for now; from what I
can tell, he's the sort you stay talking to, one of the better 'adults' you'll
encounter online (the rest are generally rude!).
*Dummy user: A 'user' who has been created for the sole purpose of serving a
function for an existing user, commonly used to accumulate points or items on a given
website. The practice is extremely frowned upon and is specifically banned by most
sites with the potential for abuse. Also known as: puppet user, false user.
Linked to: Dummy accounts, puppet accounts, false accounts, multiple accounts
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